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Vinnie Taylor is one half of Stingray's morning show on Real Country 95.5 in Red Deer, Alberta. His career has spanned the 80's to now. We have heard from his co-host Randi Chase on two separate occasions on this show, and thought it was about time we heard from the other half of the show.
In this episode you will hear how Vinnie was raised on 630 CHED... and started his radio career in Weyburn, Saskatchewan. We also heard about his time working with Peppermint Patti (morning show co-host) and Gayle Zarbatany (program Director) at Kiss in Calgary; and the unique format that station had. And what's it like to work on a morning show... with a co-host you get along with... that broadcasts clean across Alberta?
So this is troubling. I did not discuss AI or CHAT GPT or any of that other stuff with Vinnie. I've actually already said my piece about it and everyone will discover its value and limitations in due time. Here's what CHAT GPT had to say about Vinnie. (Read the last line... unreal)
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Tara Sands (Voiceover) 00:00:02
The Sound Off Podcast. The show about podcast and broadcast starts now.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:00:13
You know what, it seems highly inappropriate that we would have Randi Chase on the show- twice- before we had her co-host Vinnie Taylor on. Vinnie Taylor has been in Red Deer doing morning radio for over a decade now. He's humble, kind, friendly, and if you're looking for references, look no further than his co host, Randi Chase.
Randi Chase (Clip) 00:00:13
Vinnie and I, when I first talked to you, we just kind of started the show and it was always great. Like, we always had really good chemistry and got along really well. But now he's just like it feels like he's family to me. We've never had a fight, not one fight. And we've been doing mornings for five years in January. So I'm pretty proud of our relationship.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:00:53
I feel like I know Vinnie, although I've never met Vinnie because I listen to the show. And so Vinnie doesn't know this, but I know Vinnie. He's my best friend.
Randi Chase (Clip) 00:01:02
Oh, he's going to be so happy. You should invite him on the podcast sometimes, because when I said I was coming on your podcast, he was like, oh, you know, I've never been asked. I was like, oh, he'll ask you after this.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:01:13
So I did. Now, Vinnie Taylor joins me from the Stingray Studios in Red Deer, Alberta.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:01:19
There's no rules in the podcast game, correct?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:01:22
They say that there's no rules, but there are rules and the listeners make them up. And when they get bored, they just stop listening and you lose.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:01:29
Sounds like radio. It is.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:01:31
It's kind of the same in that sense. Right, Vinnie, roll it right back to the beginning for me. What was your first radio job?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:01:40
My very first radio job was in Weyburn, Saskatchewan, an AM radio station. Now, you got to think back. This is way before there was any technology that we have today. So there were no computers, there was no internet, there were no websites, none of that stuff. Everything we did was played records, 45s, albums. All our commercials were on carts. We had religious programming at night on reel to reel, and all our production was done on reel to reel.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:02:10
Are you going to put a year on that? Because I'll give it about 1982?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:02:17
1983.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:02:18
I was off by one year. What radio station were you raised on?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:02:20
I went to high school in Edmonton. So this is how I actually got into radio, taking a work experience program, my high school. And they said, pick two jobs. We'll set you up with two jobs, get to go there and then you get school credit for it easier than going to school. So I worked at a van conversion shop because at the time, back in the day, everybody had pimped out vans. And then I got to work at 630 CHED, kind of an intern deal. And I got to work with everybody from Rob Christie to Jungle Jay and Chuck Chandler, all those guys, and I thought, this is the coolest job ever. This is what I want to do. When I got out of high school, I enrolled in the infamous Columbia School of Broadcasting. And after I graduated from there, because I didn't graduate from high school, I Actually got into radio.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:03:07
Weyburn, Saskatchewan 1983. It's almost the peak of the top 40 in music era, because every record is great. Even the country records were great at that point. So what were you playing and what was your shift?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:03:24
I was working evenings at the time and was playing everything from Journey to the Rolling Stones. The big station, though, at the time in Saskatchewan was, of course, CHAB. 800 CHAB. That's the one that everybody wanted to go work at.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:03:39
I find it amazing that the people who do go start in Saskatchewan. It's Weyburn, it's Rosetown
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:03:39
Estevan.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:03:39
Estevan is another one.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:03:49
Prince Albert.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:03:50
Yeah, you can do the border thing. You can head out to Lloyd, but yeah, I've spoken to a few people on this podcast who have had great success getting their shows, getting their careers started, and launched in Saskatchewan. I think a few weeks ago, we had Bryn Griffiths on, and he was talking about his time in Saskatchewan. And how long did you last in Saskatchewan?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:04:15
I worked Weyburn for about a year and a half, Rosetown for a year and a half, and then I got a big break. I got to work at 65 CKLM in Saskatoon. It was a super station back then, and I got a chance to work with my heroes friend, Penny murphy. We were doing the morning show at that time. I read Allen was doing middays. I ended up doing drive, and then got transferred to Calgary back in, I guess the 90s and worked there for a decade.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:04:39
And I was just thinking in my head when you were saying, oh, Saskatchewan superstition, I was about ready to go C-K-O-M because those were the first Saskatchewan call letters that came to my mind when you said everybody wanted to work at a big station.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:04:54
That was so much fun. And that's when I started working with Gayle Zarbatany. I worked with her for probably 14 years in Rawlco, and one of the best program directors. She was awesome. She brought me into Calgary, and that's when I worked with my very first co host. Had to change my name, of course, because her name was Angela Knight. They wanted me to go by Michael Day, so it was the day and night show. Brilliant, right?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:05:22
I like it.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:05:23
Angela right now, actually is doing the morning show in Calgary at CBC. Very successful.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:05:31
And was that a morning show?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:05:32
No, that was afternoon drive. A couple of years into that, they got the license for an FM station, and they launched Kiss FM 96.9, which at the time was one of the very first stations across the country that mixed music together. So we were the only station that played a mixture of pop, rock and country. So you go, like, from the Goo Goo Dolls into Garth Brooks, for example, that kind of stuff. It was like 1997 when they launched that station and got to work with Jerry Steen. Karen Daniels were doing the Morning Show. The late Tim Kilpatrick. Big Daddy Don Ritchie was doing middays. I was doing drive. And then a year after that station launched, a legend came into my life, and that would be Peppermint Patty. She moved from Montreal to Calgary, and she started doing stuff on my show and we ended up doing the morning show for about a year before they sold the station.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:06:21
Now, I do remember that period, and I remember when the station launched with great fanfare. And I think we need to remind people about what it was like in the 90s and how it was possible in a place like Calgary to play Shania Twain, Alanis Morrissette, Goo Goo Dolls and have a very diverse playlist of both pop and pop country. And it really was the birth of the pop country era.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:06:48
Yeah. And it also kind of was, I guess you could say, a precursor to what would become the Jack FM format later down the road. Right. Playing what we want almost kind of the same thing.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:06:59
And I think back to Gayle Zarbatany and all the work that she put into that station, and I just remember keeping my eye on it and just being fascinated by the whole thing, because that period of the 90s was the pop was just phenomenal at that time. The Nsyncs and the mother daughter, they could listen to the same music on the way to school. And then a station like Kiss would be on there and would really be the antithesis to CJAY 92, which is what you were up against Gerry Forbes.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:07:29
Hard to go up against a guy like Gerry Forbes. I love Gerry.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:07:32
Well, no one survived.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:07:34
No, of course not. That station did very well for about a year and a half. KISS, FM 96.9, and then Power signed on. And that was kind of the downfall of the station.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:07:44
Yeah somebody came in and ate part of your lunch.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:07:46
Yes, exactly. And then Rogers came in and bought the station from Rolco, and I ended up getting let go. So then I went back to Saskatchewan and worked in Regina 2000 at Z99, CC and Lorie. And then they got licensed for another FM station. So I got to be part of another launch of Rock 94, which was very cool.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:08:11
I want to talk for a moment about Peppermint Patty because she had just been in Montreal and she had been in a tumultuous situation with Morning Show,Terry DiMonte left, and then John Derringer came in. And then there was another incarnation, I think, and she'd been through a lot of co hosts. And I do remember at that time, because I was working up in Edmonton, that I would visit her. And in 97, I did go down and visit her, and I think she was a little bit shocked at just how much fun it was to work with you. But I thought it was great that she got to go work in an environment that was not toxic, because I think post Terry DiMonte, for her, the environment at CHOM was quite toxic. And for her to go and work with you, and it was a joy every day. And I know that she really enjoyed that period of working with you.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:08:57
We had a ton of fun, a lot of laughs, and I learned a lot from her because she's such funny, crazy, outrageous, just a real person. And she taught me a lot.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:09:10
What she teach you?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:09:11
Just how to open up a little bit more and not be such a radio guy. You know what I mean?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:09:20
Yeah. Lay that personality on the line.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:09:23
Yeah. Just try to be a little bit more. So much. Just doing the steps of announcing.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:09:29
And how did you get up to Red Deer?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:09:31
Red Deer? Well, I was working in Victoria at JACK FM.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:09:36
Well, how'd you get to Victoria?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:09:38
When I was in Regina, I lost my job in 2005, moved back to Calgary, and that didn't work out very well for me. And then I got a call from Gord Edlin in Victoria, and he was looking for somebody to drive. So I got to work there with AJ and Crash. A lot of great, talented people there as well. They went through a bunch of different stuff, not format change wise, but they let a bunch of people go because they only wanted to do a morning show and then just have imaging throughout the day. So I lost my gig there. And then I got a call from Darryl Holine, who was opening up a station in Red Deer, and my kids were living in Cochrane at the time, and I thought, Perfect. Moved to Red Deer and we signed on 100.7. The river has gone through a couple of changes in CRUZ FM. I worked there when there was CRUZ, and then I kind of left and had an opportunity to come to real country.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:10:28
At which point you were then paired with Randi.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:10:31
Yes.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:10:32
What's it like to work with Randi?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:10:35
Insane. Not going to lie to you. She's one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life, probably. I've worked with a lot of people. She's probably the best storyteller that I've ever met, and the weirdest things happen to her each and every day. She's one of the most open people I've ever worked for. Nothing is off limits. She'll talk about everything that happens in her life, whether it's tragic, whether it's good, whether it's funny. She's just so easy to work with. And we didn't know each other. Met at a Boston Pizza in Sylvan Lake at lunch and had a lot of laughs. And I thought, this is going to be good. And then we just hit the ground running, and it's been amazing ever since.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:11:14
So once again, you're working with somebody who had pivoted from a toxic work environment, and here you are with Randi, and the whole thing feels very much rejuvenated for her because I've had her twice on this podcast, and she speaks glowingly with you. And the second time I brought her on, she goes, why aren't you talking to Vinnie yet? Why are you bringing me back? And she's right, I should have had you on sometime in the in between time. But I'm glad we get to sit down and have this conversation because I think as technology goes forward, you've really rolled with it. So we think back to the beginning of what we were talking about in 1983, and there's nothing in the studio except for a bunch 45s and carts.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:11:57
And every hour you go check the teletype, right? Yeah. For the stories that were coming in for news and sports, and that was it.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:12:04
Did you have to peel the paper and then sort -
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:12:04
Yes.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:12:04
The BN newswire. Did you ever have to time out to the top of the hour for BN news?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:12:12
Every hour.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:12:13
And now your timing is impeccable and no one cares.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:12:16
Nobody cares. It's a different time. It's a different world, Matt.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:12:21
Well, I'm looking at the studio you're in. It's got a microphone and that's it. But if we rolled this back 40 years, the place would just be like carts and records and CDs and everything, right?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:12:31
Pretty much, yeah.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:12:33
What do you think of the technology change, though, in the last, like, five years? Because it's changed more in the last five years than I think any other time.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:12:40
I mean, there's good parts about it and there's bad parts about it. The bad parts about it are it's really tough to develop any new talent when there's no jobs anywhere. Everything is voice tracked across the country. Multiple shows, multiple stations. So you're not really giving the kids coming out of school a chance to learn the craft and grow. So down the road, companies are going to go where's all the talent, giving them an opportunity to grow and learn.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:13:09
In just a second. More with Vinnie. He says he's not into stuff, but trust me, he is. And what's it like to broadcast clear across Alberta. There's more. There's always more on the episode page, including a failed attempt to use artificial intelligence to write this episode. Hey radio, don't worry, AI is only as good as the programmers who make it.
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Matt Cundill (Host) 00:13:31
You've worked at a station that played both country and pop music and now you're doing a morning show that appears on stations that do both country and pop music.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:14:13
I know, weird, right?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:14:15
I mean, you think about the technological change. If I told you this about 20 years ago, you'd never guessed that you'd be able to do it. So how do you approach that every morning? And I think when this was first presented to you, what did you think? Oh, I'm going to be on both country and a traditional pop station.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:14:29
I mean, it was a challenge at first because you're trying to think to yourself, content wise, is this going to work on both stations for both audiences? But the stuff that we do is all real life stuff and it actually works at the end of the day.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:14:47
I think the term that I've heard before is that your content is agnostic. Did you ever know that your content was agnostic?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:14:55
I've never heard that term before, but thank you.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:14:58
Do you think it'll be used in the imaging tomorrow?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:14:58
Let's hope.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:14:58
When Randi comes to you with something that is going to be real, it's going to be one of those moments, could make you laugh, could make you cry. Is there anything that is a no go where it might be too much for the both of you to cope with?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:15:13
No, we've never had that situation rise where it's like, I don't know if we should do this or not. We always just go with our gut feeling and we will talk about it because we can have an impact on one person that's listening, that maybe that's happened to, and our job is done at the end of the day, very open about a lot of different things on the show. Randi has gone through a lot of different struggles, shared them all on the air, and she's allowed me to open up about a lot of different stuff that I've never shared on the air before. Grew up in a terrible household, domestic violence, sexual abuse, never even thought I'd bring that up on the air before, but I have, and that's helped me and hopefully it's helped other people as well.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:15:59
And I think ten years ago, even we probably wouldn't have gone there or it would have been difficult to do. But it's amazing when somebody else comes into the show or into the room, opens up about something, and then it sort of allows for everyone else around to also open up and then I'm guessing the listeners now will open up to you as well.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:16:18
Yeah, we do get the calls from the people who said, I know exactly what you're going through, or just like a thank you now I feel like I can share my story type of thing. And we do a lot of work with various organizations in town. I think it's very important, wherever you're working have to really get involved in the community. Do as much volunteer work as possible. Tie yourself to as many organizations as possible, MC, all that stuff. You are part of the community. That's part of your gig.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:16:47
That day when you opened up and you were truly honest with the audience about traumatic stuff that had happened in the past. And the show is over, and you walk outside and maybe you saw the sun, maybe you saw the snow or whatever it was outside the station that day. How deep of an exhale was it? And what did it feel like?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:17:03
Oh, it was huge. I mean, like, a giant weight was lifted off my shoulder, and it was very emotional at the time. I mean, I broke up on the air, and Randi was crying on the air. I was crying. And there's been many moments like that that are very real. That's what I love about our show, is we can go from one extreme to the other, from laughter to crying, and all the emotions are there every day.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:17:30
I think maybe in the past, it might have been like a show prep service. You might have watched some TV. It was a little bit easy back in the do your show prep, because we would just video we would videotape seinfeld, maybe Roseanne, catch up, watch Entertainment Tonight, look at The Wire to see what had come in on a show prep service. Hopefully, the other station in town didn't have the same show prep service. And, okay, so what's it like today?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:17:56
Today is totally different. I mean, our show prep is every night we send each other prep. Could be something that happened to us, could be a dream that Randi had, for example.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:18:05
One of the things that Randi warned me about is that you're not technically savvy, which was proved today by Cliff, who came in to fix everything before we got started.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:18:17
Shout out to Cliff the engineer.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:18:19
What social media platforms are you comfortable with, and which ones are you not?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:18:24
I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram, I'm on the Facebook, and I'm also on the Snapchat, but I never go on Snapchat. I don't even know why I have that.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:18:35
I didn't even know that was still going. I never went on that. I drew the line at Snapchat. Do you guys have any boundaries when it comes to communication? Like, if somebody sees something on television at night or an event or sending show prep to one another, is there any downtime for you?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:18:49
There's always downtime, but, I mean, we're always looking for content all the time. More ridiculous, the better our world anyways. We just want to be entertaining. We want to have fun, make people laugh, and just have a good time.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:19:03
How many stations are you on?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:19:05
15.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:19:06
What streaming services do you subscribe to each month?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:19:09
As in television streaming services?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:19:11
Do you have Netflix?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:19:12
I got the Netflix. That's the only one I have. Oh, I got Paramount and that's about it. I watch regular TV and I PVR everything, okay? I'm old school, Matt.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:19:21
I think it's great that you PVR everything. It's the way it should be. You can just sort of skip through it. I'll give you a really bad hack. I do show prep for the show that I don't have, and every day I PVR Inside Edition, and it is just complete junk of the best stuff. I can get show prep done in my head in four minutes of whatever went viral, of whatever murder is being covered, whatever court trial is being covered. It's all given to me in a very short dose. And then I'm completely prepared for the show that I just don't have.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:19:56
Yeah, that's a totally new ballgame now, too, being a program director. It's not like the old days when you were a program director and you did everything and you came up with the ideas and everything else. Nowadays, I hate to say it, but you're more of an administrative assistant. All you're doing is picking music for stations, attending meetings and sending out emails. Back in the day, you're having air checks with your staff and doing all kinds of stuff. That doesn't happen very often anymore.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:20:22
When was the last time you guys had a pizza party?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:20:25
Actually, today.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:20:27
Isn't it great to know that pizza parties and pizza lunches at radio stations just will never die?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:20:33
No, they won't. Mind you, our staff is fairly small compared to when I first started here. It's probably cut in half easily.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:20:40
A place like Red Deer, I look at the work you do now, being clear across Alberta on a lot of stations, that looks like a really enviable job. Unlike getting up and doing mornings for one radio station in Edmonton. Like to have the whole province at your fingertips.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:20:58
I never thought in a million years that anything like that would even happen. But it's hard to get to wrap your head around it. It's cool. And I love living where I'm living. Like, this is the end of line for me, Matt. I'm not going to go anywhere, going to go to any big cities. I'm done mold, getting to the end of the road. I've worked in Calgary, some bigger markets, but this is where I love being. I love the community. The people are amazing here and it's just nice and relaxing.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:21:29
I guess the one deficit to what you're doing in Red Deer is that you being an Edmonton guy. It would be having to put up with Flames fans.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:21:37
Here's the thing, I'm a Flames fan.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:21:41
Well, you'll have to explain that.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:21:43
I went to high school in Edmonton, junior high in Calgary, so I lived in both cities. Kind of thing. And then majority of my work was done in Calgary. I never actually worked at a radio station in Edmonton, but I got the opportunity Calgary for over a decade, and that's when I became a huge Flames fan and a Stamps fan. So being in the middle is kind of tough because you got to put up with the Oiler fans.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:22:05
So you went to high school in Edmonton, you went to high school in Calgary, junior high in Calgary, junior high in Calgary. And now you are clear across Alberta. I would say that you've landed in the perfect spot because you're not a stranger to both cities and you pretty much know the province like the back of your hand.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:22:27
Yeah, and my kids live in Calgary now, which is great.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:22:30
Do you ski?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:22:32
Back when I was living in Calgary, we had a ski team at the radio station. We were out every weekend, out lake, weeds, sunshine and the kiska. A lot of fun. But I haven't skied in probably 20 years.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:22:42
Now I'm going to ask you to do something. I'm going to ask you the most complicated question. I'm going to ask you the most difficult question, because we couldn't have imagined that ten years ago that you would be hosting a morning show on so many stations across Alberta. What do you think the next evolution is for the show you are doing?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:23:03
Worldwide maybe, I don't know, cross Canada, I guess would be the next thing?
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:23:10
Right so that would be another time zone. And so you'd have to get up like in the middle of the night to go and do that in the Maritimes. I don't think we would ask that of you, though, by the way.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:23:19
Oh, thanks. I appreciate that because I wouldn't do it.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:23:22
Of course not. Absolutely not. Vinnie, did I miss anything on this show?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:23:28
I don't think so. I just wanted to say though, that I appreciate you having me on the show and I also wanted to thank all the people that I've worked with the past 39 plus years. I always seem to surround myself with extremely talented people, brought out the best in me. So if it hadn't been for them, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:23:48
And you realize that you brought out the best in others as well, right?
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:23:51
I don't know about that.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:23:53
Come on, give yourself a little credit.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:23:55
All right, maybe.
Matt Cundill (Host) 00:23:57
Vinnie, thanks so much for being on the podcast. I super appreciate it.
Vinnie Taylor (Guest) 00:24:00
You're very welcome. Thank you for having me.
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